“I’m making a comic about stereotypical man, but I don’t know any man”
Must be a good read.
In this case it’s funny…if the person asking that were a white straight guy asking about any other group, folks would be getting out their pitchforks.
Hehehehehe sounds like satire as you point this out to how often the opposite happens
I once slid a large rock across an entire frozen lake. Please, contain your admiration
Living the dream…
You should try curling. No greater satisfaction.
I opt for the primitive version, as it appeals to my caveman brain.
Winner buys drinks. It’s in the rules.
Grew up on a lake that used to freeze in the winter, this is the best but worst thing we used to do (because it was fun, but the rocks/ice chunks would refreeze in place and be a hazzard while skating)
Hazard? I think you mean obstacle course
Really. It’s only a hazard if you don’t like hazards
The sound must have been incredible
Immensely satisfying frozen lake noises
Check out golf ball on frozen lake for some good sounds
How can a woman make it to adulthood without knowing any men in real life?
I’m so baffled that most people reading this don’t get its satire of a lot of comics, sci-fi, video games, etc but with the genders reversed and people thinking it’s a reasonable position.
The author isn’t being literal, they are making a joke about men who unironically say this and expect it to be considered normal.
Please don’t yell at me for this I am just the messenger.
That’s because there is good satire, and pretty often rubbish niche satire. Satire usually relies on everyone being in on the joke, accepting the ludicrousness of it. Political satire is good at this, gender stereotype satire is pretty deep psychologically layered stuff. Most people are not psychologically trained, or even people watchers. So the satire gets missed.
To me, trying to be dispassionate here, that’s also an issue with capping tweets.
In a social media feed such as (pre-Elon) Twitter, if one were the depicted author one would expect ones followers to know you are a successful illustrator, political essayist, social commentator and published author on the topics of sexual violence in culture and an NEA fellow off the back of your successful graphic novel, putting the context of the original tweet in perspective and making the satire very obvious.
To be a little less dispassionate and a little more arch: isn’t the burden of that on the reader, not the author?
Man no get satire so satire bad! Man over analyze reason instead of just accepting it not for man and moving on! Grunting noises or something!
As a man, I feel personally attacked and it’s glorious. Most of the arguments between my wife and I are me over analyzing things.
I hope the author (if they’re actually writing something) goes hard on that concept.
To be a little less dispassionate and a little more arch: isn’t the burden of that on the reader, not the author?
Yes and no.
We have limited cognitive abilities as humans. With every bit of information on social and regular media screaming for our attention its easy to miss the nuance. Add to that even the difference in culture in countries side by side there can be barriers to this absorption generated by our various cultures. You have to actively break from cultural norms to explore these other ideas and philosophies.
Might well be a little too deep for “I dont know any men” type memes… 😅
A fair point but also, if one wants to say “hey they didn’t give context to their joke, when the poster deliberately removed it from its contextual home!”, there’s nothing that can stop them, but also, they shouldn’t be surprised to find people asking them to understand the context before complaining about the lack of it.
Consider something like “I didn’t know Stevie Wonder was blind, and it’s therefore not my fault that I didn’t get the joke about Stevie Wonder being blind.”
Like, sure, maybe it’s not, but also, it would hamper any joke if you had to explain all context.
A rabbi, a priest, and an Iman walk into a bar (a rabbi is a spiritual leader and officiant in the Jewish faith, Judaism is a monotheistic religion, a religion is a set of beliefs that characterize a worldview including but not limited to spirituality, ethics, morals, social conduct and worship of divine beings…)
Here’s a reward: 🎖️
You have the first correct use of “nuance” I’ve seen/heard in the last 50 uses of the word.
No, I’m not being sarcastic. I mean it.
My comment is a tangent and is not directly related to the ongoing discussion.
Or… All satire isn’t meant for you and that’s ok. It doesn’t automatically make it bad, good, or niche.
If it isnt as much of an everyman then its just punching down or an in-joke.
Or… Satire. Nothing wrong with an in-joke anyway.
Nah, this is pretty good satire.
Very religious single mother with lots of money from a divorce has a daughter, sends her to a girls-only boarding school, she studies theology and joins a convent, becomes a nun - now you have a thirty-something year old woman who has never known a man on a personal conversational basis (may have seen/heard them in passing, possibly a teacher or church leader as well).
(This is most likely not the case and purely exists as a ridiculous but possible answer to your question.)
I appreciate the worldbuilding effort
Already a better story than the one shes writing
Reminds me of that one monk who lived his whole life without ever seeing a woman
I’m pretty sure he saw one way up close at the start of his life.
How did she get the daughter?
You do realize some daughters are born with asshole dads who abandon their mothers before they’re born, right? Not everyone knows their father on a personal level, some have never seen them …
The person who “has never known any men in her life” is the daughter here, not the mother…
That makes way more sense. I thought the woman sent the goal to boarding school so she (the mom) could become a nun…
It’s been a long week…
Yeah, I get it. I’m really not thinking straight either, it’s a Friday. Sorry if the reply came across a bit arrogant.
Nah, I totally missed it. Thanks for helping out. :)
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What you’ve never encountered one of those “went to an all-girls school then got a job at a daycare” chicks?
well the closest I ever got to that was having an all-consuming hobby of attending aerobics classes and there were no men anywhere and I was so sexually frustrated. Had no idea how to meet men cuz all I wanted to do is go to a aerobics classes.
LPT for men: If you want to meet tons of thirsty women, go to aerobics classes.
lol nope. Meeting women at the gym is “creepy.” Had that screamed at me for years now.
It’s only creepy if you’re a creep.
Men who aren’t creepy aren’t creepy.
lol nope. That’s not what women say.
I am a woman.
You’re probably a creep if that is the message you are getting back from everyone.
Believe it or not, not all men are creepy.
Ladies of Lemmy: What y’all think of guys joining aerobics classes to meet women?
Single-sex schools still exist ? where ? I know a few people who went to those but they’re in their 70s now
My coworker went to one and she’s 18. I’m in Australia.
Ireland
She grew up on Themyscira?
Finding a nice stick
I practiced spinning sticks so that it looks like I know what I’m doing and every now and then I even look like a cool martial artist when doing so. My wife doesn’t think so but my homies got my back. I love nice sticks.
I practice drill team exercises with the broom whenever I’m sweeping the kitchen.
“mmm yes that’s a good stick.”
!stick@lemmy.world I think?
I believe it is !stick@sh.itjust.works.
Especially when its the right height to use as a staff
That’s a dog
I’m sure bitches like that too
U want sum fuk?
That’s why we’re best friends.
When I was a kid, my town had a bowling ball factory where they would leave the rejected balls in a big pile in back of the building, unguarded. In winter, we would sometimes nick a few and walk to one of the bridges on the local river which had iced over and drop the balls in. Dropping little rocks into water is cool and all, but absolutely nothing compares to the satisfying explosion from one of those bowling balls on ice.
A bowling ball factory with unguarded rejects sounds like paradise
Well, this was the late '70s when all kinds of crazy shit was going on that’s unheard of today. As another example, retail stores used to just leave handheld electronic games out on the sales counters where amoral young boys could easily slip them into their paper bags and stroll out the door with them and then tell their parents they’d “found them in the garbage”. Not that I would know anything about that kind of thing …
Pissing from great heights is a wonderful, wonderful feeling.
just watch out for the headwind
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Assert dominance, always piss into the wind.
JA’LOJA!!!
Always on the Bortus side of life
If there is a fire it must be bothered. It must be prodded several times and sticks need adding to it. The fire cannot be trusted not take care of itself.
Of the 3 people who I know who particularly like poking at fires, all of them are girls.
Supported by my wife and I. She makes fires in the fire pit in the yard. I don’t even like fires. I hate smelling like smoke.
Its just fun to poke at a fire with a stick, but we’ve had “dont play with fire!” Drilled into us so hard we have to pretend like we’re doing something productive.
This mostly applies to other people’s fires. My fires mostly collapse in on themselves gracefully and I might take offense at anyone prodding it before it’s ready.
Weeeelllllll, I’m going to go out on a limb here and state that I do believe my fire tending helps the wood burn cleanly and wholly. That’s why I constantly prod and adjust it.
Fuck yeah to throwing rocks into bodies of water from great heights though fr.
Yes, but if you throw a small light stone at the right angle, you can make in bounce off the water. That’s much more fun.
That’s fun, but definitely not more fun than big KERPLOOSH
Am man, can confirm.
It really is that fun. Kerplunk.
Hitting something with a ranged attack. Doesn’t matter the target, doesn’t matter the projectile. Basketball at hoop, dart at dart board, pee at poo stain, bb gun at empty can, snowball at tree, bullet at bullseye, it’s all the same to us
Jizz at the crude target that I drew on my wall with crayon… yea its all them same really
That explains the large rocks from great heights thing. Now I understand my instincts. Thank you wise sage.
Surely women also love seeing large rocks fall into a lake from great height, right? This has to be just a human love.
I’m mostly ambivalent about it really.
Edit: am woman, still human though
still human though Sounds sus.
I do very human things, such as metabolize milkshakes and grow eyebrows.
Definitely passed the human vibe check. Please sign up for your existential dread and inability to move freely between nation states!
I’m human and I do that too! You might actually be human after all.
I know I do.
Women love throwing paper airplanes, when it glides perfectly on the first try
I like both. Does that make me non-binary?
Yes, now go buy the plush shark from Ikea.
So if I already have blåhaj, do I automatically become egg? I don’t think my legs would look good in thigh high socks…
You got trans in your username, I think it was probably too late before the shark.
If you rather that your legs did look good in thigh highs…
… You wouldn’t?
I would. But I’m not cis. And I regularly wear thigh highs. I didn’t think I would particularly like them, but got some anyways because of the programming sock meme, but I’m apparently terrible at knowing what I’d like.
Still, was making a joke. Femboys exist too and they like thigh highs too. But unhappiness about masculine aspects of your body if you are amab should be reason to more seriously consider why.
You can use Linux socks regardless of gender
Is that what that instance is primarily about? I just thought they liked random memes a lot
Might as well, makes about as much sense as anything.
Successfully unsticking your balls from an uncomfortable position in public with only minor leg motions
And not making this face after:
Why do men always want to hog all these enjoyable past-times? Next they’ll be claiming that stuff like stepping on frozen puddles on the side of the road to hear the satisfying cracking noises is a “guy thing”. Like please, we all know men don’t go outside.
Can confirm - am man, don’t go outside.
But when I do, I throw large rocks into bodies of water from great heights. It’s one of those instinctual things I just can’t control, but it only happens when I go outside.
i think a lot of “guy things” are just people things but guys are like “omg thats totally me and not anyone else”
having said that, its definitely a guy thing to claim things as guy things.
Digging a hole
Watching someone dig a hole. Or standing by the side of a hole that was just dug and commenting about the hole. Or watching construction work in a previously dug hole.
We seem to just like holes. We are simple creatures.
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Diggy Diggy hole.
Saw the comment and was going to post this exact thing lol
Love me a good hole
Digging a hole was my covid project.
And now I have a pond and a fondness for pretty fish, lol.
At the beach. Also sandcastles.
Fuck no. I hate digging holes.
Man police here: hand over your man card.
No.
Bringing in all the groceries in one trip.
Although… that’s a lot easier now-a-days.
I remember grocery shopping as a kid filling the cart completely full and when we went through the register it was over $100 and my mom was going jeez that’s a lot of money for a lot of food. It took 3 people several trips to unload the car.
Today I go through the self checkout, get a few frozen meals, some store brand cookies, and a case of cheap beer for $80. I can carry the two bags and beer with one hand.
Just a note here, I bet your mom wasn’t buying “dinners,” she was buying “ingredients.” Ingredients take up a lot more space in the cart per dollar spent. Sometimes that’s because you pay a premium for prepared foods, (flour vs cookies) and sometimes it’s because there’s inherent waste, like onion skins, and both ends of that head of celery, and the bones of the whole chicken, and the stem, seeds, and vacant space inside a bell pepper. Also, not judging the beer, but in my childhood Dad bought all the alcoholic beverages from the liquor store in a separate trip. So it wouldn’t have been in the grocery bags, nor on that receipt.
Inflation is real. But it’s important to:
A. Make accurate comparisons
B. Value the work that went into turning those ingredients into dinners.
I’ve been going to Costco every week for several years. Pre Covid my big trips were around $350. Yesterday I went and got some beer, wine, and some beef jerky and it came out to $350
My big cart days are a lot closer to $700 too now. Certain items I remember being $10 are now $16-18. It’s insane.
We just had a $595 sticker shock at Costco a few days ago. I’m pretty sure the same amount of stuff would have been $350 a couple years ago.
They’re raising the prices because we’re buying “frozen meals, cookies, and beer”. All of that can be made at home for cheaper. Well, the beer and cookies may cost the same but they will be twice as good.
Figure out what is your biggest purchase and find the recipe for it. Pasta, Indian food, cookies, and even beer can be made at home if you know what you’re doing.
Prices were lower before because everyone knew they could probably whip up something similar. If you have a bag of flour, some butter, and some sugar you can basically make half of the things at the grocery store.
It’s cuz I got strong right?
Right?
You have extra carrying capacity now because your wallet got lighter.
AND DIGGING BIG HOLES
Hell yeah
