• raunz@mander.xyz
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    1 year ago

    I don’t quite understand how the science is clear if “there is still no data on the long-term effects of e-cigarettes”.

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      1 year ago

      Anything other than air going in to your lungs is bad. Vaping puts stuff that isn’t air into your lungs. The science is clear on that.

      Just how much damage it’s doing isn’t really clear because they’re only becoming really popular now, but it is doing damage.

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          1 year ago

          I’m be fine with them banning coffee so that’s not the “gotcha!” you think it is. Alcohol too btw. Alcohol especially should be banned tbh.

          Coffee isn’t inhaling stuff into your lungs that isn’t air though. I’m assuming you’re saying “caffein = bad”? People aren’t filling their lungs with caffeine from coffee.

          Again - science is settled here. If it’s not oxygen it’s bad if it goes into your lungs.

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      1 year ago

      We dont have long term data because e-cigarettes haven’t been used for a long time. They got popular ten years back?

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        1 year ago

        You would think 10 years would be enough time to see a groups increased risk to associated illnesses. If I made a study group and made them smoke daily for 10 years there would definitely be poorer health. The science is pretty clear, but the WHO doesn’t want to admit that vapes are net neutral, whereas tobacco is bad, so obviously that would make vapes “healthy” in comparison.

        Nicotine in the body acts much like caffeine, it increases your blood pressure, giving the effect of a “calmer” feeling, and headaches when in withdrawal. No one is lobbying against coffee/caffeinated drinks, even though it’s understood that too much caffeine can cause health risks. That’s really where we’re at. Alternative methods like nicotine gum or patches have existed for a long time and while there can be dependencies formed on these, no one would dare say nicotine gum is as dangerous as smoking cigarettes. The associated cancer risks from tobacco come from the carcinogens that are created when burning tobacco, not from the nicotine itself