• sturlabragason@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3201·
    10 months ago

    I don’t know about you but I was just waiting for an excuse. I ain’t ever going back. It’s a brave new world for me, part of shifting my whole suite to FOSS. Leaving the old internet behind me.

  • Margot Robbie@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2372·
    10 months ago

    What this shows us is that more people are joining lemmy, but even more people are either leaving or going into lurker mode, as Lemmy only counts people who have commented or posted in that time period as active users, whereas most social media counts any activity while logged in as active. You have to realize that people who use reddit as Google search results don’t usually interact with the content there and most won’t even make an account.

    On the upside, with fewer people, it’s easy to get noticed here just by contributing good content since you don’t really get drowned out here because of the democratic upvote based sorting instead of black box personalized recommendation algorithms. So with relatively low amount of effort, you can make sure your content is being seen instead of relying on analytics and metrics.

    The last thing to in mind that Lemmy is only one aspect of ActivityPub, and Mastodon’s growth is currently the highest right now because of the ecosystem created by the whale fall of Twitter, which indirectly grows Lemmy as Mastodon users can post directly to federated Lemmy communities.

    • LostCat005@lemmy.worldEnglish
      73·
      10 months ago

      I just got recommended this site after posting on reddit re: predatory algos and the necessary regulations needed to protect people and how algos have manipulated the UX so much its disrupted the originally intended purposes; ie insta has effectively become a marketing and advertising platform.

      So in response someone suggested finding alternatives to the popular social media sites and used Lemmy as an example.

      I have been loving it thus far - its old school reddit.

      this is my first comment on lemmy!

          • Coelacanth@feddit.nuEnglish
            4·
            10 months ago

            I can see the arguments for both, to be honest. Ideally I’d like to be able to see statistics for both. Active Users and Active Contributors?

            • Meldrik@lemmy.wtfEnglish
              1·
              10 months ago

              You can already see how many posts and comments users make. Isn’t that the same?

              • Coelacanth@feddit.nuEnglish
                4·
                10 months ago

                Well, as mentioned that is also covered by the Monthly Active Users metric that already is available. But in addition to that, I think it would be interesting to see the number of users who read and vote but don’t post or comment. Even though posting and commenting is the biggest part, actively voting is still an important part of the ecosystem.

                • Meldrik@lemmy.wtfEnglish
                  1·
                  10 months ago

                  True, could be nice to see data on content consumers, and not just the content creators.

        • Ategon@programming.devEnglish
          11·
          10 months ago

          I changed the algorithms in programming.dev to take into account voters in the activity. Since stats are all calculated locally you can view any community from programming.dev to get the monthly active users including that change

          e.g. https://programming.dev/c/technology@lemmy.world shows 27.8k users/month on p.d which is almost as much as the value here for all of lemmy excluding voters

          • Meldrik@lemmy.wtfEnglish
            2·
            10 months ago

            That’s crazy! User/month goes from only 7.5k active to 27.8k. And that’s just people voting. What about people who only read a post?

            • Ategon@programming.devEnglish
              3·
              10 months ago

              Dont have access to those stats in the database so adding on voting is the best I can do

              Theres a post read table but its only people who have explicitly marked something as read and is way less than the post likes

              • Deebster@programming.devEnglish
                2·
                10 months ago

                Do posts get marked as read when you read the comments? There’s the x new comments feature, so something must be storing that timestamp.

                • Ategon@programming.devEnglish
                  4·
                  10 months ago

                  I dug through the code and turns out the post read table does store when its read (with number of comments when it was read stored in a person post aggregates table), it just only stores it for people from your instance so I cant get accurate numbers from all of lemmy (and why it seemed like there was a low amount)

    • Omnissiah@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
      30·
      10 months ago

      There seemed to be an influx of reddit users but probably didn’t like Lemmy’s own distinct user base (*nix users for example)

      I am kind of glad it settled down because I much prefer Lemmy over reddit

    • perviouslyiner@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      halfyear includes people trying out different instances; monthly shows just the one(s) they settled on

  • TSG_Asmodeus (he, him)@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1742·
    10 months ago

    For anyone panicking, this is exactly like what happened with the transition from ICQ to AOL messenger, from MySpace to Facebook, from 9gag/etc to Reddit, and so on.

    Website makes a mistake, some people leave. Makes another, more leave. Each time this happens, more ‘main’ people of said website leave. Hell, I already saw PoppinKREAM here, so that’s a great start.

    So this is exactly how it always goes. The fact it is still here means it’s staying. Look at Threads, or Metaverse, whatever those things are. All dying or dead, barely lasted. Lemmy is still here, people are still posting, so just keep doing what you’re doing. It’s already working.

  • Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
    1294·
    10 months ago

    I don’t care that the fediverse has a ton of traffic. It may not have the most users, but it definitely has the best

  • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.comEnglish
    1174·
    10 months ago

    11 million comments this month. 11 million comments from people smart enough to leave behind the other. 11 million comments, likely largely from actual humans.

    Lemmy is thriving.

  • RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.worldEnglish
    795·
    10 months ago

    All the people returning and forgetting what reddit did and will continue to do. Then the next time reddit messes up, they will come back. 😔

    Edit: other stats seem pretty good though! Unless i am misunderstanding them.

  • nutsack@lemmy.worldEnglish
    672·
    10 months ago

    so there was a wave of sign ups with the Reddit drama, and then people got bored. the graph looks about right to me.

    • Sanyanov@lemmy.worldEnglish
      431·
      10 months ago

      Uh-huh

      Still, Lemmy probably ended up with more people than before. Also, hey, I came from Reddit drama

    • Wahots@pawb.socialEnglish
      4·
      10 months ago

      Growth always comes in waves and then settles. I spent nearly a decade on reddit until they killed my app. Reddit took over a decade to become really big. I’m not really that worried for lemmy that much, especially since we now have a framework for something other than reddit. Even if reddit goes into nosedive mode, it won’t be the end of forums as we know it.

  • JadenSmith@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    64·
    10 months ago

    Here’s the thing though… I’ve been on Reddit for over a decade before Lemmy, and whilst there may be less interaction the interactions themselves have been far more sincere. People are more willing to engage, and even with this random comment there’s a chance someone would comment below.

    The community feel of Lemmy is something, at least I’ve found, Reddit had lost a very long time ago.

    Sort of a quality Vs quantity thing I guess?

    • Alborlin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      72·
      10 months ago

      It’s sometimes unbearable on Lemmy. I have stated that using Linux is very hard for noobs and it’s not useful still for general audience. I have got so many downvotes just because of this, you won’t believe. It feels like community is Linux users , who are acting as nerds or are nerds, and they are somewhat inclusive of outsiders. Lemmy feels like a club for only the so called intellectuals and they want to barr regular person getting in. This is also evident with Lemmy worlds or alternative of subbreddits. If you try to find some they still don’t exists. Further Lemmy is very hard to understand , even I struggle to understand how it works. But the access to different Lemmy’s is good, via boost app. The Lemmy worlds though they don’t look as polished as Reddit does but that’s cause Lemmy is evolving. So in summary Quality of posts, strong sense of non inclusivity by lemmye’rs , understanding of how Lemmy works and old feel of Lemmy are the reasons is keeping people out.

      • Peppycito@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        82·
        10 months ago

        I feel you. I don’t give one single fuck about Linux. My lemmy experience got better when I filtered out Linux across the board. The “hive mind” here is way more super-geek than reddit ever was. I’m a craftsman, just about the only reason I turn my computer Chromebook on is to send invoices. And that makes a lot of lemmy mad it seems. I feel way more like this guy here than I ever did on reddit.

  • directive0@lemmy.worldEnglish
    685·
    10 months ago

    I dont get the hysteria, personally.

    I came here to escape the crowds, not migrate with them.

  • qevlarr@lemmy.worldEnglish
    632·
    10 months ago

    It doesn’t matter. I get all my news here and I can comment if I want. That’s enough

  • Ategon@programming.devEnglish
    58·
    10 months ago

    For anybody interested, the monthly active users including voters is 131,150 (131k)

    The one in the graph only takes into account people who have made a post or comment

    Edit: The halfyear active users including voters is 253,166 (253k)

    • ALoafOfBread@lemmy.mlEnglish
      191·
      10 months ago

      That engagement ratio is super high when you look at it this way. 118k-ish posters/commenters and 131k total users? Damn. Good job Lemmy.

        • ALoafOfBread@lemmy.mlEnglish
          4·
          10 months ago

          Still though - like I know it was boosted by the reddit exodus and so the 6mos stats are inflated, but still not too shabby.

    • Tolos@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      10 months ago

      I didn’t realize commenting was an important metric. I check lemmy everyday but rarely have something useful to say.

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      51·
      10 months ago

      This is a great metric-explainer. What impressive numbers. Now we really know how successful this migration has been.

  • deadinside91@lemmy.worldEnglish
    57·
    10 months ago

    FWIW Lemmy has fully replaced Reddit as my go-to toilet reading material, and I’m sure there are many other lurkers around here who don’t post much and thus don’t show up in these stats. The more niche communities are still lacking in content, yes, but these things are best left to grow organically over a long period of time to maintain quality. It was the same on Reddit too before the enshittification escalated.

  • The Picard Maneuver@startrek.websiteEnglish
    581·
    10 months ago

    For whatever anecdotal observations are worth, I’ve recently been seeing a huge uptick in activity from the userbase that is here. Maybe it’s been driven by posts like this one or memes about growing Lemmy, but people seem to be posting and commenting more than usual.