• gnuplusmatt@startrek.website
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    1 year ago

    Yes let’s shift the blame off massive polluting companies, we should eat veggies and let them warm the earth

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      1 year ago

      One of the things those massively polluting companies are doing to cause so much environmental harm is rearing meat…

      Turning to veggies would cool the planet. That’s the point.

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        Exxon knew about climate change since 1971. They continue to make the problem worse to this day. Do you really think if people stop eating meat Exxon is suddenly going to do the right thing and fire everyone? Corporations are going to continue fucking over the environment for their own profit and energy companies (like Exxon) contribute much more CO2 and pollution than eating meat. These rich mult-national corporations are putting out articles to try to get people to place the burden on themselves to distract from their own wrongdoing.

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          1 year ago

          Not in the slightest; I completely agree. Climate change cannot be solved by asking individuals to change their diets or make any other different individual decision. We have one option: revolution. The logic of infinite growth offers no way out of a problem caused by that same logic.

          Luckily, revolution, the real movement to abolish the present state of things, is already underway. The start of the tipping point could be exactly one month from today, when BRICS+ plans a radical shift away from the dollar on 22 August.

          The question for westerners, as unipolarity falls apart, is what measures they are willing to organise to implement when the opportunity to tackle climate change presents itself. A dietary change is one piece of the puzzle.

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            Brics are too incompetent to accomplish de-dollarization (or much of anything else). Lately Russia has only been making the dollar stronger. Nice fantasy though.

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              Time will tell.

              Edit: This report shares your dismissal of BRICS (well, of any competition), but contradictorily warns of a decline of the dollar’s share.

              But this report suggests that BRICS poses a real threat to the dollar.

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                1 year ago

                Keep ignoring the FOREX charts and move to a BRICs country if you’re so confident they will succeed. Surely nothing could go wrong!

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                  That’s a very strange thing to say. [Edit: especially considering that we started off with me clarifying that I completely agree with you about the contribution of corporations. Unless you’re just being contrarian.]

                  Remember the context of all this is what people everywhere need to do to save the plan[e]t and human society. I’m not gleeful that the end of dollar hegemony will plunge the west into recession and devastate living standards.

                  I’m just stating that it’s happening. Either climate change destroys life as we know it or the planet transitions to a sustainable political economy—currently, BRICS is making moves to bring that possiblity a step closer.

                  But I’m not necessarily a third worldist; I’m not saying that actions taken in the third world will automatically usher in a new world order. I’m saying it’s one (albeit significant) aspect in the real movement to abolish the present state of things, i.e. the definition of revolution.

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                    You believe that BRICs will succeed in usurping the dollar, but you’re not willing to move to one of those countries? You don’t even believe what you’re saying.

                    You’re sitting on a computer in a western country writing up fantasies about countries you don’t live in, don’t want to live in, and don’t actually believe will bring about positive change. Your actions show that you’re not quite dumb enough to believe the garbage coming out of your mouth.